Detect Alignment

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Daemona
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Detect Alignment

Post by Daemona » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:58 pm

What is the team view on the spell or feat for Detect Alignment? On Avlis it is considered OOC and Hala IC.

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Re: Detect Alignment

Post by Darkfire » Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:45 pm

Avlis hasn't ruled it OOC.

Here is the Avlis ruling:
The Detect [insert appropriate] allows you to sense that someone or something who is in your immediate vicinity radiates the alignment tendency in question. This does not, however, allow for you to pinpoint the exact source of the radiation. The more people around you, the lower the possibility to make an educated guess on who radiates said alignment tendency. Also, keep in mind that there's most often plenty of NPCs around although you cannot actually see them.
"You detect an aura of <alignment> around <character floaty>."

This has been the message ever since the original prc_detect (which I then adapted for the Detect Alignment spell), so whoever came up with the "you can't pinpoint the source" ruling, either never actually used a prestige class detect ability and was simply unaware of this.

The saves you make are not meant to be displayed, the only reason they're visible at all is an engine limitation that I couldn't get rid of.

Some additinoal notes:
1. There is no spellcraft check to the prestige class detects, nor is there a casting time. This is intentional and has existed from the original implementation. The only visible IG action is the "shrug" effect of a character using an item/feat.

2. The divine spell detect alignment is IDable with a spellcraft check. Again, intentional.

3. The additional floaty message is: "OOC Note: All names given by this power are out of character." This is because of the message above which returns the name of the creature which has that aura to begin with.
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Re: Detect Alignment

Post by corwink » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:59 pm

The DM's are currently discussing this issue and we will post a reply soon. :D
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Re: Detect Alignment

Post by terror2001 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:25 pm

I think what Daemona is asking about are the messages that the spell gives.
"You detect an aura of <alignment> around <character floaty>."
3. The additional floaty message is: "OOC Note: All names given by this power are out of character." This is because of the message above which returns the name of the creature which has that aura to begin with.
The spell is written as Darkfire noted, and follows somewhat along the lines of the PnP spell:
The Detect [insert appropriate] allows you to sense that someone or something who is in your immediate vicinity radiates the alignment tendency in question. This does not, however, allow for you to pinpoint the exact source of the radiation.
The messages the caster gets are OOC.

We're looking into changing the spell so only IC information is given, and to shore it up to the PnP spell where appropriate.

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Re: Detect Alignment

Post by Dyers » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:48 pm

I'm pretty sure Hala's ruling it IC only aplies to Palidins as it is an inate ability and they have a wand to choose a single pc, tho I maybe wrong about that. Either way it is Arkaz's choice as to what they will allow or disallow.

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