Automatic translation of Languages

[corwink]

Though many languages are in fact learnable through IG interactions, a few languages are class specific. These languages can only be acquired through taking said class (its considered part of the learning process of that class). For example, magic is used as the verbal components of spells and rituals. Its not meant to be a language you converse in casually though technically you can. As such, only wizards and sorcerers know Magic. If your character wanted to learn it, they would have to pick up either wizardry or sorcerery. Bard's do not know magic because bardic magic while arcane in nature is drawn from their music. Other class specific languages include animal, druidic, thieves cant, and necromantic.

Hope this helps.

*Stamps his approval*

[Tremayne7]

Yes, Sonja taught Diego and Michiko Draconic. It was done in IC PMs in part but over 50 RL hours each with individual instruction. As DD class involves physical changes to a character I tend to treat others to speak with an accent as well. In the past if you learned on on Arkaz or Hala the teams would communicate and if both sides agree the language was set up on the other world as well.

So since Zach is a DD, he should be able to speak draconic on Hala as well (which he doesn't) and he should have elven there too as well since he is elven, nymph and dragon. Granted I have been doing some IC stuff on the boards and some previous RP with GP who was the one who ran my PrC quest to learn draconic as there were no PC's available to teach him at the time. I do now have the widget, but he will speak it oddly for a bit of time still.

Conversely, Peter should have Druidic as he is a druid (abet 1st level). I have Druidic on Hala, but not on Arkaz. I do have animal on both servers.

I do know of a few cases where languages do not come with the character when they should based on their character class/race.

As far as I know Aasimar should speak Celestial instead of elven (they get the elven based on the half elven base template) and tieflings should know whatever language it is they are supposed to speak. Just thought I'd ask here about that. Peter and Nadalie both have the Celestial language "widget" here on Arkaz, but I know characters created here do not. Does the team have any "restricted" languages the PC's aren't supposed to know?

[Rudiki]

So if I'm reading this right, then class-specific (as opposed to race-specific) languages cannot be learned by characters who are not of that class, and also class-specific languages are not automatically translated for characters who have high intelligence and lore skills, only race-specific languages are?

[terryrayc]

So if I'm reading this right, then class-specific (as opposed to race-specific) languages cannot be learned by characters who are not of that class, and also class-specific languages are not automatically translated for characters who have high intelligence and lore skills, only race-specific languages are?

Well just about any language could be learned if you can find someone who is willing to take the time to teach you and it's IC for them to do so. However the system will only automatically give you a language based on your race/class.

[terryrayc]

Yes, Sonja taught Diego and Michiko Draconic. It was done in IC PMs in part but over 50 RL hours each with individual instruction. As DD class involves physical changes to a character I tend to treat others to speak with an accent as well. In the past if you learned on on Arkaz or Hala the teams would communicate and if both sides agree the language was set up on the other world as well.

So since Zach is a DD, he should be able to speak draconic on Hala as well (which he doesn't) and he should have elven there too as well since he is elven, nymph and dragon. Granted I have been doing some IC stuff on the boards and some previous RP with GP who was the one who ran my PrC quest to learn draconic as there were no PC's available to teach him at the time. I do now have the widget, but he will speak it oddly for a bit of time still.

Conversely, Peter should have Druidic as he is a druid (abet 1st level). I have Druidic on Hala, but not on Arkaz. I do have animal on both servers.

I do know of a few cases where languages do not come with the character when they should based on their character class/race.

As far as I know Aasimar should speak Celestial instead of elven (they get the elven based on the half elven base template) and tieflings should know whatever language it is they are supposed to speak. Just thought I'd ask here about that. Peter and Nadalie both have the Celestial language "widget" here on Arkaz, but I know characters created here do not. Does the team have any "restricted" languages the PC's aren't supposed to know?

Remember Hala and Arkaz use different systems. Here the system is all DB driven (I Think it's a better system). Now when you log in the system should look at your class/race and grant languages based on the settings. If there is a language you've learned on another world and can show you have we can teach you. The DMs have a tool that will allow them to grant access to languaged. As for Aasimar, I'll have to check and see how it's setup in the script.

[terryrayc]

In the past if you learned on on Arkaz or Hala the teams would communicate and if both sides agree the language was set up on the other world as well.

This should still be the case. If you learned something on Hala let us know, also they've been good about allowing you access to languages based on what you've learned here...just have a DM from hala talk to us and we can let them know what languages you know.

[ambrosia]

I think people might be talking about slightly different questions.

Hope this helps:

1) What languages can I understand (comprehend) when I am on Arkaz?
What you see is what you get. If you can understand what is being said in game, your int and lore are high enough to understand the language - whatever it is. As a result, you may take that as IC info.

How am I able to speak a language IC?
1) It's a language you should know by either class or race. If you do not have it and believe you should, PM the Arkaz team with what the language is and the reason. We'll reply back. 8)

• Side note: If you leveled up off world with your new class (say Druid) you may not have the druidic language on Arkaz until you level up again in that class or a DM unlocks it for you. Most of the time level up fixes it.

2) It's a language you want to learn. If there isn't a player who can teach you - PM the team! We'll see what we can do to help.

Are there any languages that I can't learn? Short answer: That depends.

Longer answer: Just about any race language can be taught to another. Generally speaking, the instructor needs to have a 'lesson plan' approved by the team and the language will be added once the team decides you've "learned" it. Each language is different and takes different amounts of time and effort to learn.
Keep in mind: Some are very hard and others are very rare. Your Int and Lore ALSO determine if it is possible for you to learn another language as well as how contribute to length of time required for the language you want to study.
As for class languages, those do tend to be kept to class only languages. That said, some rare exceptions have been made in the past via team approval, on a DM reward basis.

[Darkfire]

I read over the posts, and I may have missed it...

But are there any languages that a lore/int roll cannot translate?

[Daemona]

Depending on the language there are different skill levels required as originally set up. Some like elven Sonja understands without effort but cannot speak it. As I recall the most difficult is Cant but others are up there as well. Very few would be able to understand some of them and at best only with gear or spells to really boost stats.

[Rudiki]

I'd think that any class-based languages that would require special team approval to learn also should not be understandable no matter how high someone's int and lore scores are, unless that someone has also gotten special team approval to learn the language.