Psionics and DM veiwpoints

Post by **Knightlight** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:40 pm

I have not seen a post on how DM's see psionics on Arkaz especially in use during DM'ed events. Some DM's I know hate psions with ever fiber of their being, for various reasons.
I would rather not use a power then make a DM upset that things didn't go as planned for myself or them in their event.
And I do tend to use the powers that I have in creative ways (as much as the engine allows me to).. however on other worlds some dm's have asked me to participate expressly because of the psionic powers. To do things other characters can't.
Examples are breaking into planar hideouts, combining the planar energy power and dimensional door/banishment powers .. or using contact while scrying to find the location of a certain player character that has been kidnapped. ((although contact is just in the engine to open someone's mind to make it more accessable for other powers or persuasions.. ,lower save stats..))
The creative uses for psionics are pretty endless if DM's want them to be.
I just don't want to banish the wrong thing at the wrong time or try and do something that ruins a persistant plot because that isn't fair to the dm's or other player's
What I am asking for are specific guidelines I can use during Dm'd events or find if its ok to ask specifically if i can try somethng in the DM chat channel when I think of the crazy things I think of ..

Otherwise I will just have to side on caution and I'll stand in the back as support character which is also ok..

I enjoy playing... love the world and the plots and people that play..
its a very RP based world and its so wonderful..
thanks for the time..
KL
player of - Ji'mas

Post by **Daemona** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:14 pm

My observations on events both here and on Avlis differ a little. Large scale events on Avlis I have been asked to not use clone as it lags the server. Here it is all open so far. I would recomend agains things like passing a warded doorway or a set of bars that is intended by the team to block entry outside of an event. In one however perhapa a quick question to the DM running it would be in order, if the team is willing.

The only feats Dae really uses are Dimensions Door, Residue, feats to increase spot and listen and her Little Sister.

Post by **terryrayc** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:23 pm

as long as you remain in character and RP as best you can, feel free to use your powers. Now like Dae said there are some rules...for example no using DD to move past a plot door.....I'll fix it later so we use the non-dd areas like Hala does.

Just remember though. I tend to scale my events to meat the abilites of the players..take Dae for example...with clone I had to smack her silly to make it hard

Post by **Daemona** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:59 pm

terryrayc wrote: Just remember though. I tend to scale my events to meat the abilites of the players..take Dae for example...with clone I had to smack her silly to make it hard

And he hits hard too. Terry and the other DM's like innovation is one other thing I have observed. An event here has to be fun on both sides and they seem to welcome the challenge. There may be a desired outcome but the path to the end can be a multitude of different ones.

Post by **Knightlight** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:01 pm

ok.. well I am really happy to hear things are allowed... some servers I ahve been told to not use powers at all which takes my 25 ranger psion to a 10 ranger...
to be honest I wonder sometimes about my telekentic power which holds things still.. it makes encounters with powerful things not as exciting.. example:

really hard beast : you hurt my monkey you will pay...
players: it wasn't us we didn't do it..
really hard monster: oh... im hungry ill eat you anyway
Ji'mas telekentically holds really hard monster
players shoot really hard monster and it dies
YAY party wins no one is hurt...
xp cookie is lower cause risk was drastically reduced...
Boo party loses cause excitement is gone

other examples of making Dm's mad...

really bad guy... ambuses party while unprepared..
Ji'mas banishes really bad guy...
players alll buff and pounce on really bad guy when he comes back..
((this dones't work if DM is controlling really bad guy though since player can't banish DM.. which sometimes makes me go AHH man... wish i could get rid of that guy for 3-7 rounds he hurts me))

most of those powers don't do actual damage just kinda removes the threat for a short amount of time. is there anything the team has to say about my above examples.. do these make you upset or are they fair game to banish and hold?

Post by **terryrayc** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:21 pm

nope, don't worry I knew the risks when I voted yes to allowing psion abilites on CoPaP

However don't worry most of the really mean bad guys have brothers which always seem to be lerking nearby if needed

Post by **terryrayc** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:23 pm

Oh and it might be easier just to sum everything up like this.

As DMs we do not expect players to have to nerf their characters to fit our events. We'd rather make our events fit the players. That being said, I have been known to ask Epic players to hold the rear during events so the lower level players have have some fun. Though this is rare Dae can tell you it has happened before....I tend to use epics as nurses during big events.....That way they are there is something goes wrong but if everything is fine they still get to take part.

Besides I can make critters imune to psion abilites if I need to

Post by **Daemona** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:19 pm

terryrayc wrote: That being said, I have been known to ask Epic players to hold the rear during events so the lower level players have have some fun. Though this is rare Dae can tell you it has happened before....I tend to use epics as nurses during big events.....That way they are there is something goes wrong but if everything is fine they still get to take part.

Yes it does and makes it a lot of fun even for the epic. If you see little Dae carrying a bow when she could be using her hands it could be the case. Then again it may not be. Typically if a group enters something like the spider caves she will sit back with a bow and shoot while the others go and pound. Dae/I love nothing better than seeing others do the pwning and her running around with healing kits.

As for something going wrong? I do recall a certain Spider Lord in a high level of the caves once. After he near pwned everyone Dae dropped her bow, cloned and went after him. Clone fights and she heals, *does the happy dance* I get the best of both worlds.

Post by **Knightlight** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:22 pm

LOL .. i have encountered several psion immune things over my days.. and not just because of me.. Luckily I made Ji versatile..

let me know if there is something you need. I am happy to help out or do whatever to make things better for everyone...
KL

Post by **terryrayc** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:57 pm

after I get the anti-DD areas going I'm going to work on Anti-Psion areas LOL